Gunmen should not be part of society – Nelson

[Amberal37]

Re: Gunmen should not be part of society – Nelson

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Now after your common sense analysis, now why don't you use the appropriate tool to do the job of analysis? If IU had kids that needed the reassurance of another as to why they are promoted, certainly it most likely could have been a matter of race. you see I never taught my children that their race was equal, better nor inferior.
What I did was to spend every opportunity to teach them to be the best at what they did, in school and out of school. I got them to the point where it was natural to expect that. I also taught them that it is by your ability that you will overcome every other biases. i taught them how to deal with all manner of taunting, not just racial. I taught them how to be a human being, Not a member of a race.They learn it well. and one more thing I taught them That the true definition of EDUCATION is <span style="font-weight: bold">changed behavior</span>. Yes and if i must say so myself, they are educated. hey are ahead of their peers. the strange thing is that they tend to believe that i spoke to some one to arrange their advancements. i am working at convincing them that they are doing on their own merits. I can see some infdior complex in that. but I will accep that as fair barter. </div></div>

Indeed, I consider 'common sense' as the most appropriate means by which to address topics in the forum, I will of course deflect to empirical data if necessary.

I am very encouraged by what you have written regarding the education of your own children...but I stand by my statements as applied hypothetically to you. The evidence is in the symptoms.

Incidentally, the desire for others to criticise or proffer their reasons for another black persons promotion is not necessarily as a result of being asked / solicited for that opinion - so indeed reassurance may NOT have been sought. Yet those ultimately damaging 'opinions' are echoed time and time again...most who live in a predominantly black environment I'm sure can identify with the statements.

[Dyoll_73]

Re: Gunmen should not be part of society – Nelson

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i notice that Mr Seaga for the first time <span style="font-weight: bold">after decades of discouraging the study of history</span>.
On the basis that we need to forget the mast and create the future.
He has admitted that history is indeed important,if one intend not to repeat bad experiences.</div></div>

For decades, Mr Seaga discouraged the study of history??? This has to number in the top ten list of your bizarre claims. Ok, I suppose I could ask you to substantiate that claim, but, learning from the way you operate on this board, that would be utterly pointless. I don't think you read the article beyond the first paragraph or two. Not liking 'history' is different from &quot;discouraging&quot; the study of history, which suggests some act of prevention - expressed or implied - with regard to others.

I asked: <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;How helpful is your 'analysis' if everything for you is easily reduced to race?&quot;</span>
You replied: <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;Not very helpful for those who are afraid to face <span style="text-decoration: underline">facts</span>.&quot;</span>

What facts? That Jamaica's problems can be traced to the 'white elites'? I understand why it is convenient that this is the major tool of analysis for you.

What good is history if the right lessons cannot be drawn? I have a sneaky suspicion that the problem lies in the analysis.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Gunmen should not be part of society – Nelson

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i notice that Mr Seaga for the first time <span style="font-weight: bold">after decades of discouraging the study of history</span>.
On the basis that we need to forget the mast and create the future.
He has admitted that history is indeed important,if one intend not to repeat bad experiences.</div></div>

For decades, Mr Seaga discouraged the study of history??? This has to number in the top ten list of your bizarre claims. Ok, I suppose I could ask you to substantiate that claim, but, learning from the way you operate on this board, that would be utterly pointless. I don't think you read the article beyond the first paragraph or two. Not liking 'history' is different from &quot;discouraging&quot; the study of history, which suggests some act of prevention - expressed or implied - with regard to others.

I asked: <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;How helpful is your 'analysis' if everything for you is easily reduced to race?&quot;</span>
You replied: <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;Not very helpful for those who are afraid to face <span style="text-decoration: underline">facts</span>.&quot;</span>

What facts? That Jamaica's problems can be traced to the 'white elites'? I understand why it is convenient that this is the major tool of analysis for you.

What good is history if the right lessons cannot be drawn? I have a sneaky suspicion that the problem lies in the analysis.
</div></div> When was the law repealed that forbids blacks from working as civil servants? How are th epolitical parties financed?, What political partywon the majority of seats in first election under adult sufferage,1944 election?
Whi is the reasurern of an political party thathas been a member of the party that realy won the 1944 election, Iam simply saying thatwhatever thecause. One should not be uncomfgortable if it is fond tobe so in all cases.
TYhe most basic rule of science is that ther is most likely tobe one recurring basis for most tyhings. Th reasonj why most people nevber become the best at what they do is because they don't realize that one recurring unit. Itt is liek in every discipline ther is that one basic law. If you knoe it and make sure all your proinciples adhere toiut, they call you a genious.